Erdős problem #1122 — wave 8g
Date of investigation: 2026-07-28 (UTC).
0. Mandatory live-page gate
I fetched the live page through the Bright Data browser, not by datacenter
curl. The page title was 1122 | Erdős Problems, its displayed status was
OPEN, and it said that it was last edited on 01 April 2026.
The following is copied verbatim from the live page's “View the LaTeX source”
endpoint:
Let $f:\mathbb{N}\to \mathbb{R}$ be an additive function (i.e. $f(ab)=f(a)+f(b)$ whenever $(a,b)=1$). Let\[A=\{ n \geq 1: f(n+1)< f(n)\}.\]If $\lvert A\cap [1,X]\rvert =o(X)$ then must $f(n)=c\log n$ for some $c\in \mathbb{R}$?
The rest of the live-page gate was:
0 claimed proofs for this problem;Currently working on this problem: None;Interested in collaborating: None;Likes this problem: kasko37;This problem looks difficult: kasko37;This problem looks tractable: None;- no formalisation and no one marked as working on a formalisation;
- one comment, by Dogmachine at 16:12 on 10 March 2026: “Typo:
\(g(p)\) should be \(f(p)\)”; the comment also says that the site was
updated to address it. This is not a mathematical claim or proof.
The page lists these known results:
1. Erdős proved \(f(n)=c\log n\) if \(A\) is empty, or if
\(f(n+1)-f(n)=o(1)\).
2. Mangerel proved the conclusion if
\[ |A\cap[1,X]|\ll \frac{X}{(\log X)^{2+c}} \]
for some \(c>0\), together with a technical exclusion of very large
values at primes.
3. The page points to problem #491. Its live page is marked PROVED and
records Wirsing's theorem that uniformly bounded consecutive
differences imply \(f(n)=c'\log n+O(1)\).
There was therefore no skip condition, and I proceeded.
Live sources:
1. Claim labels used below
- (a) elementary-rigorous: a complete proof is given without an
unproved conjecture.
- (b) rigorous-modulo-named-theorem: the deduction is complete from a
theorem identified in a checked primary source.
- (c) plausible/structural-unverified: heuristic only.
- (d) computational-only: an exact computer-assisted result, not a
uniform theorem.
No mathematical conclusion below is labelled (c); the only (c) item is an
explicitly marked resource forecast. In particular, no finite table is
extrapolated to an asymptotic assertion.
2. Primary-source literature audit
Erdős (1946)
I downloaded and text/visually checked P. Erdős, *On the distribution
function of additive functions*, Annals of Mathematics 47 (1946), 1–20:
- primary PDF
- SHA-256 of the retrieved PDF:
3553a6cfda5dc9cca4c0740d392294660d4d18bea9d49445c53201b65f832fa4.
On printed page 3 Erdős states both the everywhere-monotone theorem and the
present density-zero conjecture. Printed page 17, Theorem X, is important
for attempted counterexamples: it treats
\(f(n)=c\log n+\varphi(n)\) when the truncated prime values of \(\varphi\)
satisfy the Erdős–Wintner square-summability condition. It gives a limiting
distribution for \(f(n+1)-f(n)\), and says that this distribution has no
negative support only when \(\varphi\equiv0\). Thus the tempting construction
“change \(\log n\) on a sufficiently thin set of primes or prime powers” is
already ruled out in the 1946 source; I do not claim it as new progress.
Mangerel (2022)
I checked the published open-access paper, not just its abstract:
A. P. Mangerel, *Additive functions in short intervals, gaps and a
conjecture of Erdős*, Ramanujan Journal 59 (2022), 1023–1090,
DOI 10.1007/s11139-022-00623-y.
SHA-256 of the publisher PDF retrieved from the DOI:
bb657328d0e07a79c6da7e5d536f28f4ed4838b834f1a0d3647ffc6209adaa81.
The checked items are:
- Definition 1.3 of the classes \(\mathcal A\) and \(\mathcal A_s\);
- Corollary 1.7, stated for completely additive functions;
- Theorem 1.8, stated for every additive \(g\in\mathcal A_s\);
- Theorem 1.9 and its scale-dependent approximation;
- Theorem 3.7, the Kátai–Wirsing average-gap characterization;
- equation (51), the quantitative absolute-gap bound;
- Lemma 8.7 and the proof of Corollary 1.7.
The arXiv identifier 2108.12351 also
exists, but the published version above is authoritative for my deductions.
Search for a later resolution
Exact-title, exact-conjecture, and phrase searches for “almost everywhere
monotone/non-decreasing additive function” found no later paper claiming a
resolution. OpenAlex and Semantic Scholar citation lookups for the Mangerel
DOI each returned only Mangerel's companion paper
[Divisor-bounded multiplicative functions in short intervals,
arXiv:2108.11401](https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.11401). I downloaded that paper
and checked its only reference/context: it says its result will be applied in
the additive-functions paper; it supplies no later progress on this
conjecture. Citation indexes are not completeness proofs, so the honest
conclusion is only: **no post-2022 primary source directly advancing or
resolving #1122 was located in this search**. This agrees with, but does not
derive from, the live page's OPEN status.
3. Notation and the quantitative hinge
It is useful to shift the page's descent set by one:
\[ \mathcal D=\{n\ge1:f(n)Additivity gives \(f(1)=0\), and we set \(f(0)=0\) only for the telescoping
notation used by Mangerel.
Write
\[ V_f(X)^2=\sum_{p^k\le X}\frac{|f(p^k)|^2}{p^k}. \]This is Mangerel's \(B_f(X)^2\); I use \(V_f\) to avoid confusing it with a
descent set.
Proposition 3.1 — an exact sufficient criterion
Claim (b). If
\[ V_f(X)\left(\sqrt{\rho(X)}+\frac{\log X}{\sqrt X}\right)=o(1), \tag{C} \]then \(f(n)=c\log n\) for every \(n\), for some real \(c\ge0\).
Proof. Equation (51) of Mangerel, specialized to \(Y=X\), gives
\[ \frac1X\sum_{n\le X}|f(n)-f(n-1)| \ll V_f(X)\left(\sqrt{\rho(X)}+\frac{\log X}{\sqrt X}\right). \tag{1} \]For completeness, its mechanism is transparent:
\[ |f(n)-f(n-1)| =f(n)-f(n-1)+ 2|f(n)-f(n-1)|\,1_{\mathcal D}(n). \]After summation, the first term telescopes. Mangerel's Lemma 3.5 bounds
the endpoint by \(V_f(X)\log X/\sqrt X\), while Cauchy–Schwarz and the
Turán–Kubilius inequality bound the sum supported on \(\mathcal D\) by
\(V_f(X)\sqrt{\rho(X)}\). Condition (C) makes the left side of (1)
\(o(1)\). Mangerel's Theorem 3.7 (attributed there to Kátai and Wirsing)
then gives \(f=c\log\) identically. Finally \(c<0\) would make every
consecutive step a descent, so the original density-zero hypothesis forces
\(c\ge0\). ∎
This criterion is not the conjecture: \(\rho=o(1)\) alone gives no useful
control over the product \(V_f\sqrt{\rho}\).
Corollary 3.2 — bounded variance is settled
Claim (b). If \(V_f(X)=O(1)\) and the original hypothesis
\(\rho(X)=o(1)\) holds, then \(f\equiv0\).
Indeed, (C) holds, so Proposition 3.1 gives \(f=c\log\). For \(c\ne0\),
the prime terms make
\(V_{c\log}(X)\asymp |c|\log X\) (the standard prime-number-theorem
estimate also recorded in Mangerel), contradicting boundedness. Hence
\(c=0\).
This special case is consistent with Erdős's Theorem X and is included here
because it cleanly identifies where a counterexample would have to live:
its Turán–Kubilius scale \(V_f(X)\) must diverge.
4. An implicit extension of Mangerel's stated corollary
Define the higher-prime-power part
\[ H_f(X)=\sum_{\substack{p^k\le X\\k\ge2}} \frac{|f(p^k)|^2}{p^k} \]and
\[ F_f(\varepsilon)= \limsup_{X\to\infty}\frac1{V_f(X)^2} \sum_{\substack{p\le X\\ |f(p)|>\varepsilon^{-1}V_f(X)}}\frac{|f(p)|^2}{p}. \]In the published paper \(f\in\mathcal A_s\) means precisely
\[ V_f(X)\to\infty,\qquad H_f(X)=o(V_f(X)^2),\qquad \lim_{\varepsilon\downarrow0}F_f(\varepsilon)=0. \tag{2} \]Theorem 4.1 — ordinary additive \(\mathcal A_s\) functions
Claim (b). Let \(f:\mathbb N\to\mathbb R\) be additive, not necessarily
completely additive. Assume (2), and suppose that for some fixed
\(\delta>0\) \[ |\mathcal D\cap[1,X]|\ll \frac{X}{(\log X)^{2+\delta}}. \tag{3} \]Then \(f(n)=c\log n\) identically, with \(c\ge0\).
Derivation checked line by line.
1. Theorem 1.8 applies to every additive \(f\in\mathcal A_s\), so it
supplies \(\lambda(X)\) with
\(V_{f-\lambda(X)\log}(X)=o(V_f(X))\) and
\(|\lambda(X)|\ll V_f(X)/\log X\).
2. Lemma 8.7 therefore gives, for every fixed \(\varepsilon>0\),
\[ V_f(X)\ll_\varepsilon(\log X)^{1+\varepsilon}. \tag{4} \]
3. Take \(\varepsilon=\delta/3\) in (4). Combining (3) with (1) gives
\[ \frac1X\sum_{n\le X}|f(n)-f(n-1)| \ll (\log X)^{1+\delta/3-(2+\delta)/2} +\frac{(\log X)^{2+\delta/3}}{\sqrt X}. \]
The first exponent is exactly \(-\delta/6\); the standalone checker
also verifies this arithmetic over rational numbers. Both terms tend
to zero.
4. The Kátai–Wirsing theorem again gives \(f=c\log\).
Mangerel states Corollary 1.7 for completely additive \(f\), because
complete additivity plus \(V_f\to\infty\) is an easy sufficient condition
for membership in \(\mathcal A\) (Lemma 3.6). Once membership in
\(\mathcal A_s\) is assumed explicitly, complete additivity is not used in
the proof. Theorem 4.1 is therefore an explicit, verified corollary of the
published proof for a broader class of ordinary additive functions. I did
not find it separately advertised in the paper, and I do not claim that
this observation closes the original problem.
5. Exact finite-prefix computation
This section gives a sharp concrete result, with rational primal and dual
certificates.
For \(N\ge1\), assign one unrestricted real variable
\(x_{p^k}=f(p^k)\) to every prime power \(p^k\le N+1\). Unique
factorization and additivity give
\[ f(n)=\sum_{p^k\parallel n}x_{p^k}\qquad(n\le N+1). \tag{5} \]Thus every prefix condition \(f(n+1)\ge f(n)\) is a rational linear
inequality. Conversely, any assignment to these finitely many variables
extends to a global additive function by assigning arbitrary values to all
remaining prime powers. Normalize \(f(2)=1\) and optimize \(f(3)\).
Claim (a). This finite LP model is exactly equivalent to the stated
prefix problem: (5) proves necessity, and assigning the remaining
prime-power values proves sufficiency.
The checker asks HiGHS only to locate a candidate. It converts the full
primal vector and all dual multipliers to Fraction, then independently
checks:
- every prefix inequality exactly;
- \(f(2)=1\) exactly;
- the required sign of every dual multiplier;
- exact dual stationarity in every prime-power coordinate; and
- exact equality of primal and dual objectives.
Consequently the displayed endpoints are sharp exact computer-assisted
theorems, not rounded LP output.
No exceptional position
Claim (d). Among all additive \(f\) with \(f(2)=1\) and
\(f(n+1)\ge f(n)\) for every \(1\le n\le N\), the exact range endpoints
for \(f(3)\) are:
| \(N\) | exact lower bound | exact upper bound | interval width |
|---:|---:|---:|---:|
| 20 | \(4/3\) | \(2\) | 0.666666666667 |
| 50 | \(10/7\) | \(7/4\) | 0.321428571429 |
| 100 | \(61/40\) | \(33/20\) | 0.125000000000 |
| 200 | \(242/155\) | \(129/80\) | 0.051209677419 |
| 500 | \(134/85\) | \(1087/682\) | 0.017371053993 |
| 1000 | \(574/363\) | \(251/158\) | 0.007340377306 |
| 2000 | \(94221/59509\) | \(18630/11743\) | 0.003170323444 |
Claim (a). A logarithmic solution normalized by \(f(2)=1\) has
\(f(3)=\log3/\log2\). Numerically,
\[ \frac{\log3}{\log2}=1.584962500721156\ldots \]lies strictly inside the \(N=2000\) certified interval. The table proves
only these finite statements; it does not prove that the endpoints converge.
At most one exceptional position
For each possible exceptional \(e\in[1,N]\), I removed only the inequality
at \(e\), solved the two LPs, and exactly certified them. Taking the best
endpoint over all \(e\) therefore covers precisely all prefixes with at
most one descent.
Claim (d).
| \(N\) | exact lower bound | exact upper bound | lower endpoint descends at | upper endpoint descends at |
|---:|---:|---:|---:|---:|
| 50 | \(11/8\) | \(9/5\) | 14 | 17 |
| 100 | \(3/2\) | \(5/3\) | 50 | 57 |
| 200 | \(115/74\) | \(97/60\) | 122 | 89 |
Here is an explicit lower-endpoint construction for \(N=50\). Give the
prime powers \(q\le51\) the following values, and extend arbitrarily on all
other prime powers:
q: 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 11 13 16
f(q): 1 11/8 15/8 17/8 21/8 11/4 23/8 25/8 7/2 15/4
q: 17 19 23 25 27 29 31 32 37 41 43 47 49
f(q): 15/4 31/8 33/8 33/8 9/2 9/2 9/2 9/2 39/8 5 5 41/8 41/8
Equation (5) defines the resulting additive function. Direct exact
evaluation gives \(f(n+1)\ge f(n)\) for \(1\le n\le50\), except
\[ f(15)-f(14)=-\frac18, \]and \(f(3)=11/8\). The dual certificates for all 50 choices of the
exceptional position prove that no smaller \(f(3)\) is possible in this
normalized regime.
6. Standalone re-verifier
The checker is
erdos1122_wave8g_verify.py, SHA-256
2945be633a2d428dec8251730aca96fba5e75a922bb75dcf0071e9f258952ad4.
Run from the repository root:
python runs/erdos1122_wave8g_verify.py
It completed in 5.4 seconds on this VM and printed
ALL EXACT CERTIFICATES VERIFIED. In addition to all LP certificates, it
recomputes factorizations from a home-built smallest-prime-factor sieve,
checks the exponent \(-\delta/6\), and checks on three finite
prime-power models the coefficient-free involution
\[ n\longmapsto -n-1,\qquad \bigl(h(n+1)-h(n)\bigr)\longmapsto -\bigl(h(n+1)-h(n)\bigr). \]That last check is a sanity test for the symmetry behind Erdős's Theorem X,
not a replacement for the theorem.
7. Exact wall
Diagnosis (b). The work above does not solve #1122. The checked
theorems and inequalities identify two precise analytic gaps.
7.1 The density-rate barrier even inside \(\mathcal A_s\)
For \(f\in\mathcal A_s\), Mangerel obtains
\[ V_f(X)=(\log X)^{1+o(1)}. \]The best directly available absolute-gap estimate is still (1):
\[ \frac1X\sum_{n\le X}|f(n)-f(n-1)| \ll V_f(X)\sqrt{\rho(X)} V_f(X)\frac{\log X}{\sqrt X}. \]The original assumption \(\rho(X)=o(1)\) does not imply that the first
term is \(o(1)\). The exact missing lemma sufficient to finish this route
is
\[ \boxed{\quad \frac1X\sum_{n\le X}|f(n)-f(n-1)|=o(1) \quad} \tag{M} \]under only \(\rho(X)=o(1)\), or any replacement strong enough to invoke
Kátai–Wirsing. Mangerel explicitly notes after Corollary 1.7 that obtaining
(M) under weaker decay of \(|\mathcal D(X)|/X\) is the unresolved issue.
The Cauchy–Schwarz route loses the square root and naturally creates the
exponent \(2\) in (3).
7.2 Large prime spikes outside \(\mathcal A_s\)
Theorem 1.8 needs \(F_f(\varepsilon)\to0\). Without it, a sparse set of
primes with \(|f(p)|\gg V_f(X)\) can dominate the second moment exactly on
their sparse sets of multiples, defeating the short-interval
\(\ell^2\) estimate. A full solution must either:
1. prove from almost-everywhere monotonicity itself that these large-prime
contributions cannot occur; or
2. develop a replacement for the \(\ell^2\)/Cauchy–Schwarz step that is
insensitive to such spikes.
Mangerel's unconditional Theorem 1.9 gives scale-dependent
\(\lambda(X),\eta(X)\) such that
\[ f(n)=\lambda(X)\log n-\eta(X)+o(V_f(X)) \]for all but \(o(X)\) integers \(n\le X\), with slow variation on scales
\(X\mapsto X^u\). This does not stabilize \(\lambda\) to a constant or
remove \(\eta\): the exceptional set need not simultaneously avoid
\(n,m,nm\), so additivity cannot yet be applied to all three values. This
is the other exact uniformity failure.
7.3 Why larger finite computation is not the missing step
The LP table is useful as an exact local benchmark, but every finite prefix
admits non-logarithmic perturbations around \(\log n\); a finite rational
polyhedron cannot supply the needed asymptotic stabilization. The current
dense implementation at \(N=10^5\) would use roughly \(N\pi(N)\) doubles,
about 7.7 GB before solver overhead, and exceed the permitted few-minute
budget. (c, resource forecast only) A sparse implementation could
probably produce a larger finite table with a budget of roughly 1–5
core-hours, but it would not prove (M) or control large prime spikes. I
therefore did not run heavier computation.
8. Verified outcome
- (b) A clean sufficient criterion is
\(V_f(X)(\sqrt{\rho(X)}+\log X/\sqrt X)=o(1)\).
- (b) The original conjecture holds in the bounded-\(V_f\) regime,
necessarily with \(f\equiv0\).
- (b) Mangerel's quantitative conclusion extends verbatim from
completely additive functions to all ordinary additive
\(f\in\mathcal A_s\).
- (d) Exact sharp normalized prefix intervals were certified through
\(N=2000\) with no descents and through \(N=200\) with one allowed
descent.
- The full density-zero question remains open; the exact missing work is
an average-gap lemma such as (M), together with control of the
large-prime-spike regime.
PARTIAL: Certified sharp finite prefix bounds and an ordinary-additive extension of Mangerel's sparse-descent theorem; #1122 remains open at the average-gap and large-prime-spike barriers.