Erdős problem #850 — wave 6n report
Date: 2026-07-27 UTC
Disposition: PARTIAL. (d, live-page observation) The problem remains
open. The outputs are (i) an (a) elementary necessary-condition
reduction, (ii) a (d) from-scratch exact exclusion for the larger member
\(y\le 10^9\), and (iii) a (b) stronger exclusion
\(y<1.4\cdot 10^{12}\) modulo a directly relevant published computational
theorem that is not cited on the live problem page.
Claim labels
The requested labels are used on every substantive mathematical conclusion:
- (a) elementary-rigorous;
- (b) rigorous modulo the explicitly named theorem;
- (c) plausible/structural-unverified or a cost estimate;
- (d) computational-only.
Unlabelled material below is a definition, verbatim quotation, command,
bibliographic record, or description of what a source says.
0. Mandatory live-page check
(d, live-page observation) I accessed both the [live problem
page](https://www.erdosproblems.com/850) and its [discussion
thread](https://www.erdosproblems.com/forum/discuss/850) through the Bright
Data browser path on 2026-07-27. The problem page displayed:
OPEN;0 claimed proofs for this problem;Interested in collaborating None;Currently working on this problem None;Likes this problem 0xashrk;This problem looks difficult aminb_el, Dogmachine;This problem looks tractable None;The results on this problem could be formalisable None;I am working on formalising the results on this problem None.
Thus no mandatory stop condition was present.
Verbatim live statement
> Can there exist two distinct integers \(x\) and \(y\) such that \(x,y\) have
> the same prime factors, \(x+1,y+1\) have the same prime factors, and
> \(x+2,y+2\) also have the same prime factors?
(d, live-page observation) The four comments, all dated 19 January 2026,
were also read. Neel Somani asked whether positive integers should be made
explicit; Thomas Bloom replied that the intended restriction is
\(x,y\ge 1\); Somani acknowledged this; Terence Tao suggested making such
contextual hypotheses explicit, especially for automated attacks, and noted
that the Lean formalisation has the intended domain. None of the comments
claims a proof or says that anyone is currently working on the problem.
Accordingly, this report uses positive integers.
(d, live-page observation) The page's listed mathematical context is:
- the name “Erdős-Woods conjecture”;
- for only the first two comparisons, the family
\(x=2(2^r-1)\), \(y=x(x+2)\);
- Makowski's additional first-two-term pair \((75,1215)\);
- no other first-two-term examples known, with OEIS A343101 cited;
- Shorey and Tijdeman's negative answer to the three-term question under
Baker's strong explicit \(abc\) conjecture;
- cross-reference #677, the 2011 Benelux olympiad problem, and Guy B19.
The page said it was last edited 28 September 2025.
1. Primary-source literature audit
These are the specific hits I opened and checked; none claims an unconditional
solution of #850.
(d, search observation) Exact-title/statement searches over arXiv and the
web, including 2025–2026 date terms, found no later primary source claiming a
resolution. The newest directly relevant primary items I found were Hercher
and Lebowitz-Lockard below. This is a search report, not a theorem that no
other literature exists.
1. P. Erdős, [*Quelques problèmes de la théorie des
nombres*](https://static.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1963-14.pdf), Enseignement
Mathématique 6 (1963), Problem 60. The source records the standard
two-term family and asks for other two-term examples.
2. A. Makowski, [*On a problem of
Erdős*](https://www.e-periodica.ch/cntmng?pid=ens-001%3A1968%3A14%3A%3A87),
Enseignement Mathématique 14 (1968), p. 193. The paper explicitly gives
\(75,1215\) for the two-term problem.
3. R. Balasubramanian, T. N. Shorey, and M. Waldschmidt,
[*On the maximal length of two sequences of consecutive integers with the
same prime
divisors*](https://webusers.imj-prg.fr/~michel.waldschmidt/articles/pdf/Balasubramanian1989_Article_OnTheMaximalLengthOfTwoSequenc.pdf),
Acta Math. Hung. 54 (1989), 225–236, DOI
10.1007/BF01952052. It gives
unconditional bounds on the possible length, not a resolution at length
three.
4. T. N. Shorey and R. Tijdeman, [*Arithmetic properties of blocks of
consecutive integers*](https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.05438),
arXiv:1612.05438, Theorem 9.1. I checked the source text of the theorem and
proof: Baker's explicit \(abc\) conjecture implies that no positive
\(n_1 5. N. Lebowitz-Lockard, [*On pairs of consecutive sequences with the same radicals*](https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.09899), arXiv:2507.09899 (14 July 2025). This preprint explicitly says the three-term problem is unresolved and proves broader length/counting bounds. It does not settle existence at length three. 6. Most importantly, C. Hercher, [*On One of Erdős' Problems—An Efficient Search for Benelux Pairs*](https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL28/Hercher3/hercher15.pdf), Journal of Integer Sequences 28 (2025), Article 25.8.5, published 12 December 2025; see also arXiv:2506.01099. Theorem 1 classifies every two-term Benelux pair \(m repository](https://github.com/ChristianHercher/Erdos850), whose current commit I checked as program but no completion log or independently checkable certificate for the month-long search. I therefore use the \(1.4\cdot10^{12}\) result only with label (b), and do not present it as my own computational verification. Write and suppose, without loss of generality, that \(1\le x \(d=y-x\), and for \(i=0,1,2\) put Define (a) Every putative solution satisfies Therefore \(p\mid(y+i)-(x+i)=d\). Thus \(r_i\mid d\) for each \(i\), so their least common multiple \(R\) divides \(d\). Positivity gives \(d This yields a one-variable obstruction: (a) If for every \(n\le Y\), then #850 has no solution whose larger member is at most \(Y\). This implication loses information, so a value violating (2) would only be a candidate, not a counterexample. Two further consequences are useful: (a) Each of \(y,y+1,y+2\) must be non-squarefree. If \(y+i\) were squarefree, then \(r_i=y+i>d\), contradicting \(r_i\mid d\). (a) The gap has the exact form Let \(S_i\) be the prime support of \(x+i\) (equivalently \(y+i\)). (a) Apart from the prime \(2\), the three sets \(S_0,S_1,S_2\) are disjoint. The only possible overlap is \(2\in S_0\cap S_2\), when \(x,y\) are even. Both \(x\) and \(y\) obey The generalized Chinese remainder theorem therefore puts both numbers in one residue class modulo \(R\); equation (3) is the resulting gap. (b, Størmer's theorem) For a fixed finite union \(S=S_0\cup S_1\cup S_2\), there are only finitely many consecutive \(S\)-smooth pairs \(n,n+1\), and they can be enumerated via finitely many Pell equations. See D. H. Lehmer, On a problem of Størmer, Illinois J. Math. 8 (1964), 57–79 DOI 10.1215/ijm/1256067456). Consequently each fixed support partition is decidable. The unresolved uniform step is that \(S\), \(R\), and the exponents are all unbounded. The standalone checker is It has no factoring/database dependency; NumPy is used only for exact fixed-width array operations. (a) The radical sieve starts with every power \(p^e\le Y+2\), \(e\ge2\), it divides all multiples of \(p^e\) by \(p\). If \(v_p(n)=a\), the entry is divided once for each \(e=2,\ldots,a\), leaving exactly one factor \(p\). Hence the resulting array is exactly \(\operatorname{rad}(n)\). For consecutive-number coprimality gives (a) For \(Y\le2^{32}-2\), \(ab\le n(n+1)<2^{64}\), so the first product is exact in The code independently audits the fast sieve against: 1. a differently ordered prime-multiple radical sieve for every \(0\le n\le200000\); and 2. ordinary trial division at 64 deterministic checkpoints spread through the full range. It also trial-factors every candidate appearing in Hercher's classification; this arithmetic audit is separate from the billion-value necessary-condition scan. The run made on this VM used NumPy 2.4.4. Its essential output was: 40.93 seconds system time, and peak RSS 8,004,124 KiB. (d) For every \(1\le n\le10^9\), the computation found the stronger finite-range inequality and \(n=2\) attains equality. The checker did not count all equality cases, so no uniqueness claim is made. (a)+(d) Combining this exact scan with (1) proves that no #850 counterexample has larger member \(y\le10^9\). The word “proves” here is finite/computational, not a uniform theorem. Hercher's Theorem 1 says that every first-kind Benelux pair \(m or Every #850 pair is in particular a first-kind Benelux pair, so only these listed candidates need their third terms checked. (a) The exceptional candidate fails because Trial division by the primes at most \(\sqrt{1217}<35\) verifies that 1217 is prime. (a) Every member of (6) fails uniformly: The parenthesized factor is odd and at least \(5\) for \(k\ge2\). Hence \(\operatorname{rad}(m+2)=2\), while \(\operatorname{rad}(n+2)\) contains an odd prime. The standalone checker independently emitted the full arithmetic table. Its endpoints and exceptional row are: | kind/\(k\) | \(m\) | \(n\) | \(\operatorname{rad}(m+2)\) | \(\operatorname{rad}(n+2)\) | |---:|---:|---:|---:|---:| | exceptional | 75 | 1,215 | 77 | 1,217 | | 2 | 2 | 8 | 2 | 10 | | 20 | 1,048,574 | 1,099,509,530,624 | 2 | 84,577,656,202 | (b, Hercher Theorem 1) There is no #850 counterexample with classification premise is Hercher's published computation; my script verifies the deduction and all listed candidates but does not reproduce that month-long exhaustive search. The elementary identity has (b, ordinary \(abc\) conjecture) Applying \(abc\) to (8), with any \(\varepsilon<1\), gives54b80aca0fd9b7bc33b13f65cc00b50824e90082. The repository contains the2. Elementary reduction
Divisibility lemma
Fixed-support formulation
3. Independent exact computation
runs/erdos850_wave6n_reverify.py, SHA-25623860a2cc711bed3458d14c9d29eea904444068cdfc790151f656e6be141cd84
Algorithm and correctness
r[n] = n. For every prime \(p\) anduint64. The final product is not formed in fixed width:Reproduction command
python3 runs/erdos850_wave6n_reverify.py \
--limit 1000000000 --audit-limit 200000
building exact radicals through 1,000,000,002 ...
radical sieve seconds: 76.006
independent radical-sieve audit: 0..200000 OK
full-range trial-factor checkpoints: 64 OK
necessary-condition scan: no y <= 1,000,000,000 has rad(y(y+1)(y+2)) < y
preliminary rad(y)*rad(y+1) < y cases: 845
global minimum R/y in the scanned range: y=2, R=6,
reduced_ratio=3/1, decimal=3
total seconds: 94.100
RESULT no_necessary_condition_hits=True limit=1000000000
/usr/bin/time -v reported 94.49 seconds wall time, 55.14 seconds user time,4. The stronger literature corollary
5. Why the argument does not become uniform
constant does not eliminate the finite exceptional set.
(b, Shorey–Tijdeman Theorem 9.1) Baker's stronger explicit \(abc\)
conjecture yields
\[ y^2closes the problem while ordinary \(abc\) gives only finiteness.
(b, Stewart–Yu's unconditional \(abc\)-type bound) The available
unconditional shape
\[ (y+1)^2< \exp\!\left(CR^{1/3}(\log R)^3\right) \]does not contradict \(R large \(y\). Hence this standard machinery stalls at the precise missing power-law radical estimate. An exact sufficient lemma would be (c) Lemma (9) is structurally plausible from the computation but is unproved here and must not be treated as a theorem. It is a special high-quality \(abc\) assertion for (8); proving it uniformly, or exploiting the separate supports \(S_0,S_1,S_2\) to bypass it, is the exact analytic wall. The \(10^9\) run consumed about 96 CPU-seconds. A full unsegmented array to \(1.4\cdot10^{12}\) would require about 11.2 TB, so scaling requires a segmented implementation. (c, measured scaling estimate) Ideal linear scaling of the observed run to \(1.4\cdot10^{12}\) is about 38 core-hours; allowing for segmentation and prime-loop overhead gives roughly 50–80 core-hours, or about 2–3 wall hours on 32 cores. At a realistic \$0.05–\$0.10 per core-hour, compute cost is roughly \$2.50–\$8, excluding engineering and storage. A scan to \(10^{13}\) would be roughly 350–600 core-hours. I did not run either job here. Even such a scan would establish only a larger finite bound and could not close the unbounded problem without an analytic finiteness/uniformity step. \(\operatorname{rad}(y(y+1)(y+2))\mid(y-x) CRT class modulo that radical, and makes \(y,y+1,y+2\) all non-squarefree. scan actually found \(R(y)\ge3y\) throughout this range. \(y<1.4\cdot10^{12}\) is excluded after an elementary check of his complete two-term candidate list. found. The missing step is a uniform radical lower bound such as (9), or a genuinely uniform use of the three separate prime-support sets. PARTIAL: elementary reduction and an independent exact scan exclude y<=10^9; modulo Hercher's published exhaustive Theorem 1, all y<1.4e12 are excluded, but the unbounded problem remains open.Cost of extending only the finite scan
6. Verified state